tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7398290176193871172.post9038506608611565715..comments2023-10-31T01:55:25.721-07:00Comments on Inside the artisan: Experimenting with "White Bronze" clayRuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17269757994922547223noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7398290176193871172.post-28679278034290367952011-12-11T18:52:22.651-08:002011-12-11T18:52:22.651-08:00I had nothing but problems with the White Bronze. ...I had nothing but problems with the White Bronze. <br /><br />I couldn't get it fully sintered to save my life. I'm not new to Metal Clay. I've been doing it for a quite awhile. The pieces came out blackish grey too and when I sanded they were crumbly inside. I tried following Hadar's direction but this clay is not a "quick fire" at lower temperatures. I fired again and again to try and get them to sinter. Finally I went higher with the temp but it was too late by then and they were ruined.<br /><br />I'm going to give this one more try. I really want to get a handle on this clay because I like the look of the White Bronze. Only this time I'm going to follow my instincts. I know my kiln and I need to go to a higher temperature right from the start. I going to fire it like the "Fast Fire Bronze" only I'm going to shorten the firing time and fire one piece at a time. If this doesn't work I'll do a 2 phase fire only I'll fire at a higher on the 2nd.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09199244898763975482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7398290176193871172.post-83416975851406009242011-04-18T10:22:26.657-07:002011-04-18T10:22:26.657-07:00Hi Laura,
What temperature do you fire it at, and ...Hi Laura,<br />What temperature do you fire it at, and do you have a front load or top load kiln?<br />I'm also having trouble with one of my students pieces cracking, she tends to use less water than the rest of us, wonder if that's a problem?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03853099215979397078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7398290176193871172.post-73419541849733931172010-06-24T19:03:50.488-07:002010-06-24T19:03:50.488-07:00Hi,
Thanks for sharing yoru experiments. I wish I ...Hi,<br />Thanks for sharing yoru experiments. I wish I could find time to share all of mine, but a 4 yer old son, means not much time left for show and tell if I want time in studio. <br /><br />Two things though, I mentioned this on the Metal Clay Yahoo group, the pink from prometheus (which I don't like, too much like copper!) the pink can be removed/ reversed TWO ways that i know of...one fire it in carbon for as little as 30 minutes afte your first oen...ONLY MAKE SURE you have no black stuff loos left, since they will also trun mbak into Bronze in carbon and be loose flaky metal scales. <br /><br />OR use Hydrogen Peroxide pickle. I believe normal Sparex pickle mixed half and half with HP is the recommended ratio. :-) <br /><br />TWo: are you VERY sure that the blackish grey piece is fully sintered?? I had some of my first test pieces come out that color....and it turned out that REFIRING them at a slightly higher temp made then turn the normal silvery white color. I have what I would call a pretty good color match with some fine silver wire I mechanically embedded ij the white bronze, BUT it required a slightly higher than Hadar's minimum than recommended. <br /><br />Anyway, just a thought, since i also was originally disapointed in the dark color, but they are ALL silvery white now after higher temp! I will try and get some bad pictures taken sometime soon to share. :-)<br /><br />Regards from Borneo,<br />Laura Smith-HosLaura Smith-Hoshttp://www.alchemy-atelier.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7398290176193871172.post-57781146658561564602010-04-15T19:23:14.801-07:002010-04-15T19:23:14.801-07:00So I'm easy...done now. I prefer your silver ...So I'm easy...done now. I prefer your silver bird so I guess I don't need to run out and get white bronze. I keep changing my mind...yes,no,yes,no.Sue McNenlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072251834432507268noreply@blogger.com